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Subject: Re: MS-DOS Kermit, more capabalities
From: cangel@famvid.com
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:44:49 GMT
To: kermit.misc@columbia.edu
On 2000-01-17 not-2-disclose@the.net said:
MS> Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit.misc
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MS> In the past two weeks or so, i couldn't but take note that MY NEED
MS> for a `ZMoDem' protocol has been disregarded from the start; at
MS> best, various justifications were given instead.
I too could use the zmodem alternative for BBS that only have 94 byte
crippled kermit implementations and have said this several times. As
you have said, it's a `no starter' here UNLESS you use W95. For some
reason having W95 makes zmodem suddenly very logical and necessary to
have as an option. Strange how that works since W95 users have a
multitude of choices for other terminal apps with a working zmodem
and 16 bit DOS users have ZERO. I marvel at the logic.
MS> As a result of my
MS> insistance for the use of a DOS environment, i was even served a
MS> monologue on how to $pend/ earn some money.
It's an attempt to make you go away. If you're not running the latest
and greatest you are not `worthy'.
MS> Nobody looked at my
MS> `Kermit' macros to find out what's wrong, apparently; nonetheless,
MS> there were comments like: don't expect to be able to do "big
MS> things" with "tiny programs"... or this very same ~NG~ is about
MS> *THE* `Kermit' project (?), euh... In a parallel thread, it's been
MS> suggested that a guy just has to ask for help when he needs it and
MS> i'm surprized since it happens that's exactly what i tried to do
MS> but no one cared to point at a clear solution for MY MACRO PROBLEM..
Sorry. I did intend to look into that but to be honest I lost the msg
I had saved with your macros in it. When I logged on and tried to get
them again my terminal app grunged this entire newsgroup file. Now
that I see you've posted them again maybe _this_ time I won't lose them.
MS> Where i asked about the status of
MS> `MS-Kermit' there was silence (until very recently): the only CLEAR
MS> STATEMENT i've seen on wether it's in active developpment or not is
MS> a very recent one which says that it's still in beta stage but if
MS> this place _is_ THE PLACE where to address THE BETA team then one
MS> can wonder! 8-o Hummm... Actually, there seems to be at least 2
MS> DOS users in here which started to believe that it may already be
MS> too late!!!
The v316 has been in `beta' longer than most software even lasts from
start to finish.
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MS> i guess that would be good enough... Any comment about the
MS> `ZMoDem' protocols of the ~TelNettable~ BBSes being poorly
MS> implemented is unwelcomed - this would be perceived as a FUTILE
MS> comment at best: i only care about BBSes which DO implement a
MS> working `ZMoDem' protocol!
I was invited by Chuck Forsberg to use his site for testing and even
when both sides (sender and receiver) are Omen Tech I can't get that
TCPPORT to go beyond 700cps. It's very frustrating.
--8<--cut
MS> What is "mail spoofing"??? What good does it do to deprive a
MS> *HONEST* user from the capabality of using `Kermit's macros for
MS> reading & writing ~E-Mails~?... I don't know how bad "mail
MS> spoofing" is but why should we care that the recent `MS-Kermit'
MS> versions all had to serve the illusions of people which no longer
MS> care to be around - i mean, you can be sure of one thing:
MS> "spoofers" *WILL* find alternatives anyway!!! Will somebody peek
MS> at the source-code and tell me what needs to be changed to re-allow
MS> me the use of ~IP~ port #25 again - for MY *HONEST* purpose??? :^o
If we can't get a simple answer to `mail spoofing' here I can ask on FIDO.
I honestly don't know what it is either. 8(
MS> *3*
MS> In the same way that i found ~TelNet~ can be made usefull for doing
MS> a lot of InterNet stuff, i have written a small set of `Kermit'
MS> scripts to read the ~News Groups~ "On-Line".
Fascinating idea and one I would never have thought of. 9)
Charles.Angelich